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Title: 🎯 CNH/JPY: Bears Exhausted at 20.60 - Bulls Spring Back
The Market Participant Battle:
The sellers have relentlessly attacked the 20.60 support zone (points 2 and 4) across multiple 4H timeframes, creating a classic scenario where bears have beaten down the bulls repeatedly. However, each return to these sellers at point 4 has shown stronger buyer reactions, with RSI and MFI both printing higher lows while price makes lower lows - a textbook bullish divergence. The volume profile and CVD analysis suggest that despite bearish price action, buyers are quietly accumulating at these lows. With the OBV touching the lower Bollinger Band at point 4, we're witnessing potential exhaustion from the sellers. The setup anticipates a price return back toward 20.74+ as bulls regain control and punish overextended bears who kept pushing into the same support zone. This is the classic "spring" pattern where bears push too far, buyers step in with conviction, and price snaps back sharply.
Confluences:
Confluence 1: Bullish RSI and MFI Divergence
The 4H chart reveals critical bullish divergences on both RSI and MFI. While price has been making lower lows approaching point 4 (around 20.60), both RSI and MFI have been making higher lows - a powerful signal that selling momentum is waning and buyers are building strength. These divergences are particularly significant when they occur near established support levels, as they often precede reversals. The RSI and MFI being in oversold territory at point 4 while showing this divergence adds extra weight to the bullish case, suggesting sellers are running out of steam right where support matters most.
Confluence 2: Repeated Support Test at 20.60 Zone
The price action clearly shows multiple tests of the 20.60 support zone (points 2 and 4), with each subsequent test showing increased buying interest. This repeated bouncing from the same level indicates that strong buyers are defending this zone. The fact that the sellers keep returning to this area but can't break through decisively suggests that the level is well-supported by institutional buying. The descending trendline from point 3 is being challenged at point 4, setting up a potential breakout scenario.
Confluence 3: OBV Lower Bollinger Band Touch
The On-Balance Volume (OBV) indicator has touched the lower Bollinger Band at point 4, which historically signals potential upside moves. When OBV reaches extreme levels like this, it often precedes a reversal as the volume dynamics shift from distribution to accumulation. Combined with the developing Point of Control (POC) at the major low, this suggests that price dipped under the developing POC and pushed above, indicating this pullback is likely a shakeout rather than a genuine breakdown.
Confluence 4: CVD and Volume Analysis
The Cumulative Volume Delta (CVD) candles show interesting patterns - while price has been declining, the CVD hasn't shown the same degree of negative delta that one would expect in a strong bearish move. This suggests that institutional buyers are absorbing the selling pressure, creating a foundation for a potential reversal. The relatively balanced CVD during the decline hints at accumulation happening beneath the surface.
Confluence 5: Schiff Pitchfork and Fibonacci Extension
The technical setup shows a Schiff pitchfork drawn on major pivot points with frequency adjustment, suggesting this could be a perfect pullback scenario. Additionally, the Fib extension from a major low shows the pullback is within the 0.62-0.79 range - a common retracement zone before continuation moves. This technical framework provides additional confluence that the current level represents a high-probability entry zone.
Web Research Findings:
- Technical Analysis: CNH/JPY is currently rated "Strong Buy" based on multiple technical indicators. Key support levels are confirmed at 20.66-20.70, with resistance at 20.74-20.78. The pivot point sits at 20.72, and current price action near this pivot suggests neutral-to-bullish sentiment. The 52-week range shows 19.1340 to 21.6508, indicating current price is in the middle-to-lower portion of the range, providing room for upside.
- Recent News/Earnings: China launched a 500 billion yuan ($69 billion) policy-backed financial tool in late September 2025 to spur domestic investment, with first disbursements already made. However, the stimulus is directed mainly toward infrastructure rather than consumption, which may limit immediate CNH strength. China's industrial profits rebounded sharply in August (up 20.4% YoY), but aggregate demand remains weak with retail sales growth slowing.
- Analyst Sentiment: Forecasts for CNH/JPY in October 2025 show a weighted average target of 20.5541 with negative dynamics, but November is expected to see 20.6589 with positive dynamics. This suggests short-term consolidation followed by upside potential. Technical indicators across multiple timeframes (30min, hourly, daily, weekly) show Strong Buy or Buy signals, with only monthly showing caution.
- Data Releases & Economic Calendar: Critical upcoming event: Bank of Japan monetary policy meeting scheduled for October 29-30, 2025. The BOJ held rates at 0.50% at the September meeting, but most economists expect a 25bp rate hike in Q4 2025. China's CPI release is due in early October, which could provide volatility for CNH. Japan's economic data has been mixed, with GDP growth beating expectations at 5.3% YoY in H1 2025.
- Interest Rate Impact: The BOJ is in a gradual normalization cycle, having raised rates from -0.10% (end-2023) to 0.50% currently. However, real interest rates remain significantly negative. Core inflation forecast for FY2025 has been raised to 2.7%, supporting potential further rate hikes. If the BOJ hikes in late October, this could strengthen JPY temporarily, creating short-term headwinds for the trade. However, the gradual pace of BOJ normalization and China's stimulus efforts may offset this.
Layman's Summary:
Here's what all this means in plain English: The Chinese Yuan (CNH) and Japanese Yen are in a tug-of-war around the 20.60-20.70 area. China just pumped $69 billion into its economy in late September, mainly for infrastructure projects. While this isn't the consumption boost some hoped for, it still supports the Yuan. Meanwhile, Japan's central bank is being very slow and careful about raising interest rates - they're scheduled to meet Oct 29-30 and might raise rates a tiny bit (0.25%), but even if they do, rates will still be very low at 0.75%.
The technical picture shows that sellers have tried multiple times to push price lower around 20.60, but buyers keep stepping in stronger each time. It's like a spring being compressed - the more the bears push down, the harder the eventual bounce up will be. The divergences on momentum indicators and the volume analysis suggest that smart money is quietly buying at these low levels while retail traders panic sell.
For this specific trade: You're buying around 20.66, aiming for 20.74+ (about a 3.2% move), with a stop at 20.56 (about 0.65% risk) - that's roughly a 5:1 risk-reward ratio. The main risks are: (1) if the BOJ surprises with a hawkish 25bp hike on Oct 29-30, JPY could strengthen temporarily, and (2) China's stimulus is infrastructure-focused, not consumer-focused, so CNH strength may be limited. However, the technical setup suggests the risk-reward heavily favors the bulls at current levels.
Machine Derived Information:
- Image 1 (4H Chart - Overview): Shows CNH/JPY with numbered reference points (1-4) marking key price levels. Point 1 represents initial accumulation zone, Point 2 shows first support test around 20.60, Point 3 marks the swing high near 20.95, and Point 4 indicates the current support retest around 20.60-20.66. A descending trendline connects points 3 to 4. Entry visible at 20.66-20.67 area with target at 20.74 and stop at 20.56. - Significance: This overview establishes the primary trade structure and risk-reward parameters. The repeated test of the 20.60 zone with increasing buyer interest supports the bullish reversal thesis. - AGREES ✔
- Image 2 (4H Chart - Cleaner View): Same price action but with cleaner visualization, clearly showing the descending channel and multiple support tests at point 4. The current price action shows consolidation near the support zone. - Significance: Confirms the pattern structure and shows price is at a decision point where it must either break support or bounce. The clean bounce attempts visible suggest buyers are active. - AGREES ✔
- Image 3 (4H Chart - Analysis Notes): Contains the trader's written analysis explaining the 1->4 setup logic. Notes highlight: "when number 3 closes above number 1, number 2 gets proven as stronger than the sellers from number 1, at number 4 we return to these sellers for the second time, each time we return, there is a stronger reaction showing increasing interest and conviction of the buyers at this level." Additional notes mention RSI/MFI making higher lows while price makes lower lows (bullish divergence), OBV touching lower Bollinger Band hinting at upside potential, developing POC showing price dip under and push above (pullback confirmation), and multiple technical confirmations. - Significance: The trader's logic is sound - repeated tests of support with strengthening buyer responses is a classic accumulation pattern that often precedes reversals. The confluence of multiple technical factors (divergences, OBV, POC, pitchfork, Fib levels) adds conviction to the setup. - AGREES ✔
- Image 4 (4H Chart with Indicators - RSI, MFI, CVD, OBV): Shows the full indicator suite. RSI clearly shows bullish divergence with higher lows marked while price makes lower lows. MFI shows similar bullish divergence pattern. The CVD candles display relatively balanced delta despite downward price action. OBV with Bollinger Bands shows the indicator touching the lower band at point 4. Multiple oscillators are in oversold territory. - Significance: This is the critical confirmation chart. The bullish divergences on both RSI and MFI are clear and strong - these are high-probability reversal signals when they occur at established support levels. The CVD not showing extreme negative delta despite price decline suggests institutional accumulation. OBV at lower Bollinger Band is a textbook "ready to bounce" signal. All indicators align to support the bullish reversal case. - AGREES ✔
Actionable Machine Summary:
All four chart images strongly support the bullish reversal thesis. The setup shows: (1) Price at a well-established support zone that has been tested multiple times with increasing buyer interest, (2) Clear bullish divergences on both RSI and MFI indicating weakening sell-side momentum and strengthening buy-side conviction, (3) OBV positioning at lower Bollinger Band suggesting imminent upside move, (4) CVD analysis revealing hidden accumulation despite bearish price action, and (5) Multiple technical frameworks (pitchfork, Fibonacci, trendlines) all converging on current levels as high-probability reversal zone.
The machine-derived information uniformly agrees with the trade thesis. There are no contradictory signals in the visual data. The entry at 20.66-20.67, target at 20.74+, and stop at 20.56 represent a well-structured trade with solid risk-reward (approximately 5:1 ratio). The technical confluence is strong across all timeframes and indicators shown.
For trade execution: Entry zone is 20.64-20.68 (current area), with first target at 20.74 (pivot resistance), extended targets at 20.78-20.80 (stronger resistance zone). Stop placement at 20.56 is appropriate - below the support zone with enough buffer to avoid stop hunting but tight enough to preserve capital. Consider taking partial profits at 20.74 and trailing stops for remaining position above 20.70 to protect gains.
Conclusion:
Trade Prediction: SUCCESS ✅
Confidence: Medium-High
Key Reasons for Success:
1. **Technical Confluence Stack**: Multiple independent technical indicators all align bullish - RSI divergence, MFI divergence, OBV positioning, CVD accumulation, repeated support test, and Fibonacci/pitchfork frameworks all point to the same conclusion. When 5+ different technical methodologies agree, the probability of success increases significantly.
2. **Classic Accumulation Pattern**: The repeated test of 20.60 support with strengthening buyer responses is a textbook accumulation/spring pattern. Bears have exhausted themselves pushing to this level multiple times, and each push has been met with stronger buying - this typically precedes sharp reversals.
3. **Strong Technical Rating Consensus**: External technical analysis shows CNH/JPY rated as "Strong Buy" across multiple timeframes (30min, hourly, daily, weekly), confirming our analysis isn't contrarian to broader market technicals.
4. **Favorable Risk-Reward**: The setup offers approximately 5:1 risk-reward ratio (risking ~0.65% to make ~3.2% on the first target), which meets professional trading standards. Even if only 2 out of 3 trades succeed with this ratio, the overall expectancy is strongly positive.
5. **China Stimulus Tailwind**: The 500 billion yuan infrastructure stimulus, while not perfect, still provides some fundamental support for CNH. Combined with China's industrial profit rebound (up 20.4% YoY in August), there's enough economic backdrop to support a CNH bounce.
Key Risks/Reasons for Caution:
1. **BOJ Meeting October 29-30**: This is the biggest risk to the trade. If the BOJ surprises with a hawkish 25bp rate hike and aggressive forward guidance, JPY could strengthen sharply, pushing CNH/JPY lower. Most analysts expect gradual normalization, but central banks can surprise. Consider taking profits before this event or reducing position size going into it.
2. **Infrastructure-Focused Stimulus (Not Consumption)**: China's 500 billion yuan stimulus is targeted at infrastructure rather than consumption, which means it may not generate the same broad-based CNH strength that consumption stimulus would. This limits the fundamental upside potential for CNH in the near term.
3. **Weak Chinese Aggregate Demand**: Despite industrial profit recovery, China's retail sales growth has been slowing for three straight months, and consumer prices dipped back into negative territory in August. This weak demand environment could cap CNH strength and make the pair vulnerable to renewed selling.
4. **Forecast Shows October Weakness**: The weighted average forecast for CNH/JPY in October is 20.5541 with "negative dynamics," suggesting short-term consolidation or weakness is expected by forecasting models. While November forecasts are better (20.6589, positive dynamics), we're still in the October timeframe when taking this trade.
5. **4H Timeframe Execution Risk**: The setup is primarily based on 4H charts. While there's mention of daily/weekly alignment in the analysis notes, complex patterns on lower timeframes can be less reliable than on higher timeframes. Price could easily wick down to stop out positions at 20.56 before moving higher, or consolidate longer than expected.
Risk/Reward Assessment:
The setup offers excellent risk-reward from a technical standpoint (5:1 ratio), with entry at solid support backed by multiple confluences. However, the fundamental picture is mixed - China's stimulus is supportive but not optimal, and the upcoming BOJ meeting on Oct 29-30 represents an event risk. The technical setup is strong enough to justify the trade, but position sizing should account for the October timeframe weakness forecast and the BOJ meeting risk.
Final Recommendation: TAKE THE TRADE WITH REDUCED SIZE ✅⚠️
This is a technically sound setup with legitimate confluences and good risk-reward. However, given: (1) the upcoming BOJ meeting on Oct 29-30, (2) October forecasts showing "negative dynamics," and (3) infrastructure-focused rather than consumption-focused Chinese stimulus, I recommend taking this trade but with 50-75% of normal position size.
Trade Management Strategy:
- Enter: 20.64-20.68 (current zone)
- Stop Loss: 20.56 (firm stop, don't move it)
- First Target: 20.74 (take 50% profit here)
- Extended Target: 20.78-20.80 (trail remaining 50% with stop moved to breakeven)
- Time Stop: Exit or reduce significantly before BOJ meeting (Oct 29-30) if still in the trade
- Position Size: 50-75% of normal size due to mixed fundamental backdrop
The technical case is strong, the risk-reward is excellent, and the confluences are legitimate. This is a trade worth taking, but risk management is paramount given the event risk ahead. If price reaches 20.74 before the BOJ meeting, strongly consider taking full profits rather than holding through the event.
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CNH JPY Short Suggestion: Trade For Monday 9 Sept.24
This is the Daily chart for the Chinese Yuan & Japanese Yen. You can see following along the trend line how strong the Yuan was until a month or two ago - when it sharply sold off - 50 EMA diving under the 200 EMA creating a 'death-cross' which can signal a trend change. Even the last couple of Daily candles resumed this weakness down.
So, I see the Yuan falling some more and perhaps quite swiftly down to the levels and take-profit levels I have clearly marked.
One thing to be aware of is that the Yuan is heavily oversold at the moment & I see demand coming back into it very soon after this final 'flush-down' plays-out. Then we might trade it back up when I see enough demand coming back into it.
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CNHJPY - Massive SHORT!! The pair that just keeps on giving ...... and giving, and then give some more.
Should one lack the inclination to deal with everyday FX volatility (or with the lack thereof) then this is the pair to be SHORT , in George Foreman style, ala; "Just set it and forget it!"
Simply put, China's absolute best hope (just a dream, really) to survive it's oncoming demographic (industrial, deurbanization, and ... ) collapse to somehow muddle through one of it's worst decade and a half well under way, to transition through total "Japanification". (This is only a hope, requiring lots and lots of luck to pull it off.)
This is undeniably China's best possible future scenario, all else being a far inferior outcome.
Consequently, as Japan is snapping out of it's 30 year slumber just as China "hopes" to achieve Japanification, this pair (provided any future convertibility of the Yuan) will mirror that process, obviously like no other.
E.g. SELL it (Short) for good! (through about 2035 and possibly beyond.)
Here is the Weekly;
SHORT it anywhere here!
p.s. The scenario outlined in the main (monthly) chart is only a near-term outlook (12-15 months out), severely understating the potential ultimate (Short) mileage in this pair.
CNHJPY - SHORT; This pair is ready to fall off a cliff!Considering China's (ongoing!!) predicament caused by an oncoming, abject, demographic (urban, industrial) collapse, the obvious consequence is a stand-alone Japan's as the region's only remaining super power" ... Making this Short a no-brainer, probably well over a decade and a half.
The Long Term Price Target on this pair is: 10! (I.e. a >50% Decline ...,
... provided that there will be still such a thing as a convertible (off-shore) Yuan, further down the road - which, in itself, is very unlikely!)
CNHJPY 30th APRIL 2022Based on the COT reports released today, focusing on CNH and JPY CME Contracts, it can be seen that bigboys interest accumulated 73.2% renminbi long contracts and 20.7% renminbi short contracts . As for the Yen , they still tend to short contracts 46.1% which is much more than long contracts which are only 6% . It can be concluded that the big boys sentiment for the CNHJPY pair still tends to be bullish .
Technically, we can see that in April 2022 there was a bullish flag which was followed by a bullish pennant . Possibly in early May trading there was also a similar pattern . The bullish flag pattern is clearly formed, however, the continuation bullish pennant pattern has not yet been formed and possibly will be formed .
CNHJPY - SHORT; Start SELLing it for good!Whom do you trust anyways, the Commie Chinese or "kamikaze Kuroda"??... When push comes to shove Ol' Kuroda is still the right bet. (And it's about to come to that, sooner rather than later.)
All "fundamentals" aside, this is one of the most lopsided carry trades out there. (If not The Most...) That alone is deserving a massive sell-off here, about the size of Montana.
Forex lovers❤️Hurray... wolves🔥
There is an ascending triangle on CNHJPY.
There was a strong bullish sentiment before.
Now it seems like possible breakout of resistance zone has been done.
Follow the chart and look for the best price to enter carefully.
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CHNJPY: A rising wedge is made.The price of CHNJPY has been unstable. If we do some statistical analysis on this price, the variance could be very high.
As we can see, there are some big candles, some of them even broke out from the Bollinger Bands.
Now, the price is forming a falling wedge. As we know, the rising wedge is a signal for bearish, so I would say that the price could go down after the wedge is completed.
From the MACD and RSI, we can see that the price is still in an upward trend, so the wedge hasn’t completed yet.
The Bollinger Bands shrunk a little bit, which means the price could break out anytime.
For this situation, I would wait for the rising wedge to complete and see if there is any signal for a breakout.
JPY/CNH: SYMMETRICAL TRIANGLE BROKE-OUT
Hello traders!
As you can see from the chart above, JPY/CNH just broke out! I think that the price will continue to go down for two reasons:
- MACD LINE crossed SIGNAL LINE -> STRONG BEARISH MOMENTUM (it’s getting stronger)
- RSI is not OVERSOLD yet so there is a good range for the price to continue its downhill
Go short until the TARGET (dotted line) and remember to put a stop loss in order to secure your capital!
Not a financial advice.
Enjoy your trade!
Trade War Positive Trade - CHNJPY #vfx #TradeWar #Ichimoku4Hr time-frame from technical perspective: Rising trend, price above the cloud, Tenkan above Kijun, Chikou is above the price, future cloud is green, Tenkan, Kijun and Chikou not in cloud or price.
I have been using this trade as a hedge on others in this trade war. Deal positive news or abatement in tariffs is positive for this trade. Also has the benefit of not being a direct USD pair when using as a hedge. Any good news for China is generally bad news for the Yen.
TP targets 16.68 17.47 18.25 FOREXCOM:CNHJPY






















